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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

By Jeremy LaCroix on November 04, 2008 (4:00:00 PM)

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Each new Ubuntu release has raised the standard by which other Linux distros are judged. With the new Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex, the focus is on mobility and 3G network support. I found Intrepid to be a fast and stable release, yet I experienced some minor issues that keep it from absolute perfection.

I installed the 64-bit version of Intrepid on both my desktop computer and my laptop, which is a Gateway M-7315u with a 2GHz Pentium Dual Core T3200 Processor and 4GB of DDR2 RAM. When it comes to installing Ubuntu, you have the same options this time around as you did before, with one extra. The live CD installer is apparently unchanged. If you prefer a simpler text-mode installer, an alternate CD is available too. New to Intrepid is the "create a USB startup disk" option under the System -> Administration menu of an installed system, which allows you to install the OS on a USB flash drive. It was possible to install Ubuntu on a flash drive before, but having a utility available to do it for you makes it much easier. Installation for me took around 10 minutes on my laptop and 15 minutes on a flash drive.

The latest incarnation of Ubuntu includes the usual desktop manager upgrades. Ubuntu now sports GNOME 2.24, Kubuntu uses KDE 4.1.2, and Xubuntu gains XFCE 4.4.2. Across the board, Intrepid uses Xorg 7.4 and Linux kernel 2.6.27. Applications have been upgraded as well, with Firefox 3.0.3, Pidgin 2.5.2, and Rhythmbox 0.11.6 all being included, to name a few.

The Human Murrine desktop theme, a new option in Ubuntu 8.04, has become the default now. While there isn't a huge difference between the previous default theme and the new one, the widgets and buttons look cleaner and more colorful. A completely new theme was promised for this release, yet didn't materialize. The updated Human theme is not bad, yet a break from the Human style all together would have been appreciated. Thankfully, the Ubuntu community came together and created several alternate themes for the new release (Dust, Kin, and New Wave), yet none of those are installed by default. They can be found only in the community-themes package from the default repositories. Kubuntu sees the least customization of the Intrepid family when it comes to its look and feel. Other than slight color changes, it looks almost identical to a vanilla KDE 4.1 live CD and didn't even get a customized login screen.

Ubuntu's new focus on mobility seemed to pay off well for my laptop. The integrated wireless network adapter, audio, volume keys, and even the video card were all detected perfectly and worked without a hitch right from the first boot. I had no problems hibernating or suspending. Performance-wise, Intrepid ran very fast on both my laptop and desktop, with speed equal to or slightly greater than the previous release.

Network Manager 0.7 also finds its way to Intrepid. With this new version, you aren't required to log in to get an Internet connection (guest sessions are available) and it also contains support for 3G (GSM/CDMA), PPP, and PPPOE connections, and more.

Also making its debut is Dynamic Kernel Module Support (DKMS), which is a framework by Dell that allows kernel drivers to be automatically rebuilt when new kernels are released. This should help to prevent situations in the future where an updated kernel is installed before a matching restricted-drivers package has been released, causing breakage.

The Kubuntu variant of Intrepid has completely dropped support of KDE 3.5.x. While I personally favor KDE 4.1, those who prefer the simplicity and proven stability of KDE 3 will feel left out. Although there is a user-created repository available for those who still wish to use KDE 3, it's not officially supported, there's no guarantee how long it will be available, and it will likely break KDE 4 if you have that installed too. However, with Intrepid, KDE 4.1 is solid and consistent.

On the downside

During the beta, there was a bug that prevented gamepads and joysticks from working properly. Instead, those types of devices were detected as mice, and even pressing a direction button would move the mouse cursor. This bug was fixed in the 32-bit flavors of Intrepid, yet at the time of this writing, this issue hasn't been patched for the 64-bit editions yet. This may be an issue for those who use 64-bit and enjoy playing computer games. A patched package is available from Ubuntu's launchpad that resolved this issue for me.

I experienced other hardware issues as well. On my desktop, I noticed that with two Nvidia video cards installed, I had to edit the xorg.conf file manually to be able to break away from text mode and get an X server. On my laptop, the brightness controls aren't supported at all. Finally, my Lexmark printer doesn't work anymore, causing me to have to boot into Windows in order to print a document.

In order to install Ubuntu on my flash drive, I had to download the ISO image again. It would have been easier if the installer would use the system components already installed. Booting from the flash drive after it's created takes a very long time, yet thankfully the speed of the basic components is comparable to a hard drive install once it's running. Also, the installation you get on your flash drive is an exact copy of the live CD, so you'll have to add users and customize the settings to match your hard drive install yourself.

Overall

Intrepid had big shoes to fill after Hardy and ended up doing a pretty decent job. When you're ready to try it, install the live CD first, to make sure that all of your hardware is detected properly before you commit to a full install. Overall, Intrepid is fast and stable, and the new focus on mobility is well appreciated.

Jeremy LaCroix is an IT technician who writes in his free time.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 64.252.36.11] on November 04, 2008 04:13 PM
I really wanted to like it, but there are enough hardware issues (notably onboard Realtek Audio and NVIDIA configuration anomalies) that I decided to scrap it as a production release and continue to use 8.04 as my main workstation OS.

It also has a lot more problems playing movie DVDs than the previous releases.

Frustrating. I guess I'll just have to let it ripen a bit and get a few more updates before I try it again.

The Kubuntu version also has some problems. Jockey and the KDE mixer app routinely crash without warning. Once crashed they won't restart although a reboot clears the problem until the next unexpected crash.

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Re: Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 69.156.99.127] on November 04, 2008 05:05 PM
I tried to run the kubuntu version under qemu. I tried both Cirrus and vesa options for qemu, and regular as well as safe boot options from the initial screen. In all cases the boot hangs just as it is about to go to the graphical boot.

I'm guessing the xorg they are using doesn't get alone with the qemu video emulation.

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Re: Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 189.79.90.217] on November 05, 2008 04:07 AM
KPat won't work at all.

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Speed

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 86.6.12.49] on November 04, 2008 04:55 PM
> Performance-wise, Intrepid ran very fast on both my laptop and desktop, with speed equal to or slightly greater than the
> previous release.

Intrepid comes compiled with GCC 4.3, which can optimize for the Core architecture. That's the main source of speed-up, in my opinion.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 216.48.59.163] on November 04, 2008 05:09 PM
"When you're ready to try it, install the live CD first, to make sure that all of your hardware is detected properly before you commit to a full install."

i think you mean "When you're ready to try it, boot the live CD first..." or something along those lines

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Re: Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 121.98.134.130] on November 04, 2008 07:37 PM
urgh. such a error makes me itch.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 70.50.227.202] on November 04, 2008 05:11 PM
After not having done much in/with/to a ubuntu gutsy installation on my 'super-multiboot' desktop pc (6 or 7 OSs installed & many more virtualized), I decided to nuke it an try out kubuntu intrepid. The installation went pretty smoothly apart from a dangerously un-intuitive bootloader option that I almost passed by until I clicked on the 'advanced' button out of curiosity. The unintuitiveness continued (it would not let me install grub to "/", or (hd0,5), or anything except the mbr -- the one thing I did NOT want), so I did not install it at all. Pos-installation efforts to use a new (to me) settings control panel also failed, eventually I may essay a manual installation, just so I can chainload it from my preexisting mbr grub's menu.lst.

That right there is a total showstopper for me recommending Ubuntu to noobs...

Post installation, and a manual edit of menu.lst I was able to boot into kubuntu-intrepid in all it's fully-loaded-with-desktop effects kde4 glory. Problem was, my older -ish Radeon 9550 can't seem to cope with with these effects at all well, and efforts to do things such as resize the screen resulted in hard lock-ups that only alt-prt scr s-u-b could recover from. This happened even when I just tried to launch (click on) krandr, and the display settings control panel. An apt-get update and apt-get upgrade seemed to settle things down a bit, and I was able to disable the useless and harmful effects, and even (against all expectations) enable the non-free fglrx driver.

I might charitably chalk this up to kde4 immaturity, except my Mandriva 2009 kde4 installation has shown no such instability or really, any problems. In fact, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Mandriva over Ubuntu as a noob-friendly distro. I'm not even sure if I would call current incarnations of Ubuntu notably friendly to more experienced users (including 8.04, which I just installed on another pc with a host of xserver problems to overcome, but that's another story). Still, I will continue to evaluate this most popular Linux distro...

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 161.231.132.16] on November 04, 2008 05:35 PM
I have an NVIDIA card, and I've had nothing but pain with 8.10 (basically a black screen after login, no matter how many fixes I tried), so i had to revert to 8.04. This is hard to do because your .kde directory is updated to KDE4 (as explained in the release notes, to be honest). All in all, my first bad experience with Kubuntu :-(

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 75.3.118.25] on November 04, 2008 05:43 PM
Hate that wallpaper but that's easily changed and a matter of personal taste. Like the above post, had similar bootloader issues and have heard many xorg configuration problems as well. The dkms technology has been around for years and has been used by mandriva for at least the last two years. The article is misleading if referring to dkms as a "debut" since other distros have used and perfected this technology long before ubuntu got around to it. It used to be pretty buggy but the mandriva dkms implementation has worked very well for the last three releases.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 217.153.242.21] on November 04, 2008 06:07 PM
KnetworkManager is much worse than in 8.04. It detects less wifi networks and don't connect automatically to them. Also changing from ethernet to wireless doesn't work.

New adept is awful and hard to use.

I have an Intel video card on my laptop and in between windows changes it gets black. Also scrolling is very slow.

IMHO it still needs a full revision although there are other things that have improved, like dolphin that was horrible in 8.04.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 141.217.215.164] on November 04, 2008 06:19 PM
"A completely new theme was promised for this release, yet didn't materialize. " The Darkroom theme is included, but it just isn't the default.

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Re: Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 62.57.239.57] on November 04, 2008 07:08 PM
Totally unusable theme... unreadable text in white.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 76.74.194.137] on November 04, 2008 07:22 PM
My experience has been rather good, except for Cheese developers breaking their program and Ubuntu shipping the new broken version. Feh.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Benjamin Huot on November 04, 2008 07:32 PM
I installed Xubuntu 8.10 on my Systemax PC with Intel Celeron D with 512 MB of RAM and integrated video works as well as the previous Xubuntu. On my new iMac I have a virtual machine of Ubuntu 8.10 which I downloaded as a vmware image so I didn't have to install it works great - I am giving it 512 MB of RAM. I installed everything I could possibly use and everything went very easily although for some reason Konqueror doesn't appear in my menus and then I updated it to OpenOffice.org 3.0, but I had to manually remove every part of Open Office.org in Synaptic and then install from the deb from the openoffice.org website and then it went ok and I got the menus in the applications menu. As far as KDE 4.1, I have it installed on Mac OS X and Konqueror and Okular work great. I also have a the latest PC-BSD 7 in vmware which has KDE 4.1 and it seems to work well. No crashes or lock ups and everything works as expected.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 216.184.90.12] on November 04, 2008 08:55 PM
I ran into a problem with my personal laptop where NetworkManager wouldn't scan for available networks after resuming from standby or hibernation, and I'd have to restart to get NM working again. I have replaced it with WICD for now, but my boss's laptop is going to need NM due to the mobile internet capabilities with his cell card, and that sort of behavior is not acceptable.

Other than that, it boots and shuts down remarkably fast on my work PC (core 2 duo 2.2ghz 1gb ram) and my personal laptop (pentium m 1.8ghz 1.25gb ram). It's definitely faster than Hardy was on either box.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 206.192.231.187] on November 04, 2008 09:13 PM
Intrepid installed fine for me, but I ran into problems when attempting to enable 3d desktop effects with my NVIDIA card. Jockey (the app Intrepid uses to install graphics drivers) continued to freeze no matter how many times I tried to run it. EnvyNG had the same problem.

The default theme has quite a bit lacking. Wish Ubuntu came with a nice theme that wasn't orange. The Dust theme on the Ubuntu wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme/) is really nice though...

Anyway, I just reverted to 8.04.

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Theme

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 76.6.71.135] on November 04, 2008 10:43 PM
Like another person said, DarkRoom is the new theme. It took a little to get used to, and like another user said, the text can be unreadable in a few instances (haven't found it in many cases).
After you get used to it, it grows on you :)
Kory

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Not as clean as I would like...

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 217.132.10.119] on November 04, 2008 10:57 PM
KDE 4.1 has many minor issues - e.g., cannot increase # of desktops, many shortcut keys aren't available, some windows cannot be resized. Although it does have a very nice look and feel, it's still feels like a beta level release, still buggy - but kodos to the hard working kde developers for the attempted leap - I am sure all those glitches would be fixed shortly.
Other than that, it seems to be working very good.

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a bit disapointed

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 90.209.132.53] on November 04, 2008 11:06 PM
I have again been a bit disapointed with the release, I swore I would wait a few months before upgrading, but then I could not help it, and I have been regreting it since.

First off I get random crashes, can live with it but if I wanted to have to reset my computer at random times during the day I would of use windows.
Secondly my sound just stopped working, no indication as to why and I can not seem to find a permanent fix, in the mean time I have to kill all pulse audio and then alsa force reload to get my sound working (even time I have to reboot). Normally that would not bother me except that the sound clicks on startup which if I happen to have left my speakers on scares the sh!t out of my cat.
Thirdly I have a problem with the new network manager. I use both wireless and wired connections at work, wired when I am at my desk and wireless when I am moving around the office. The new network manager can't seem to swap between the two, so both connect at the same time. Which would not be a problem except with my laptop, the wireless hardware switch does not switch the wireless on/off in 8.10 ( it did in 8.04).

Everything else works just fine.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 92.81.19.197] on November 04, 2008 11:39 PM
Pure crap review. Besides a list of upgrades availabe even on the main site the rest is more like a pitch "hey, look at my shiny top of the line laptop". Zero value.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 75.88.166.140] on November 04, 2008 11:56 PM
Awful review. Since I upgraded Hardy, I've had nothing but grievances. usb-creator simply does not work, OpenOffice is still on 2.4, and now when I turn my computer on, I get an annoying pop-up about my connection. Overall, I see very little added functionality - I'd say that 8.10 is the most insignificant update I've experienced since I started using Ubuntu with 6.10.

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Re: Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 75.88.166.140] on November 04, 2008 11:57 PM
Oh, and I forgot, Flash no longer makes any sound.

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Re(1): Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 206.192.231.187] on November 05, 2008 04:16 AM
You are not the only one who has had that problem. Are their any fixes that anyone knows of?

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 85.178.241.7] on November 05, 2008 01:10 AM
Have to admit I really like 8.10. The update went through without any problems and despite some changes on my desktop everything continued to work fine.
Had a minor problem with the notifications area but it was gone after I logged off and back on.
Only thing that still bugs me is the fan of my laptop that's running nearly constantly and I just can't figure out why...

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar of hardware requirements

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 124.211.66.34] on November 05, 2008 03:08 AM
Read the title.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 213.235.169.122] on November 05, 2008 06:44 AM
Well, I've used Kubuntu for 1.5 year and was very satisfied with it. Now with Intrepid candidate versions of - for me - important software cannot be found, the window decoration for GTK is ugly. And so I tried a life CD of OpenSuse and found it a much better KDE distribution ... Today will be my goodbye to Kubuntu, in a year or so I hope I can switch back...

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar (CUT THE CRAP)

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 82.141.196.178] on November 05, 2008 08:07 AM
Ou ... cut the crap ...

1. Gamepads not working in "beta version" ... get a full one
2. HW not so well support ... screen brightness buttons are no good
Yeah ? Dont get a crap that must be supported by OS .. but HW ( I can change it in bios as well)
3. My canon printer works just fine
4. I have a latest HW with Realtek Audio running 5.1 fine ... and 8.04 would not boot into system
on my HW at all ..... Im a happy bunny now ... including the fact that nothing is perfect...
*go get a Windoze and see then ..... I think Ubuntu Rockz

5. On the Other Hand .. I am sick of reading about ubuntu everywhere I look around as its becoming
synonym to Linux ... and despite i like the ubuntu so much ... its getting really anoying

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 84.3.21.113] on November 05, 2008 11:32 AM
- my wireless was working without any ndiswrapper config... but: in each about half hours it stops for 2-3 minutes
- after pressing the shutdown button, i'm offered only to log off (there is no shutdown/restart button)
- no more graphical bootup screen after the upgrade, only textual

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 194.78.35.195] on November 05, 2008 12:01 PM
I upgraded to Ibex on my Dell Latitude D630 and had initially some quirks.
I renamed my home folder to username.backup, rebooted, logged in and had copied over (selectively) my settings from the username.backup profile to my new one.
I can Imagine that for grandma this is a problem, but for me it's not, and I must say my experience with ubuntu was already great, and with this new version it's just amazing. Great great great work Ubuntu! keep on going!

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At first I was impressed

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 118.8.116.132] on November 05, 2008 01:05 PM
I enjoyed this release initially...

But... One of my frequently used applications, synfigstudio, has a known bug. It won't start, there is no quick fix and I have a project deadline. Back to Hardy, will wait for things to get better.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 65.166.8.34] on November 05, 2008 01:17 PM
I installed Ubuntu 8.10 to see what is going on with all the problems people seem to be having. No problems here. Everything seem to work good for me. I don't like Kde because of its instability but this was an Ubuntu review and not a Kubuntu review so whats up with all the comments about problems with Kubuntu. I am looking forward to when the x-org server is finally done away with, and that will happen sooner than you think for all distributions.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 83.168.106.10] on November 05, 2008 01:49 PM
Did someone mentioned that most stupid and annoying bug - floppy is not recognised :) It is quite amusing actually :) Ubuntu team has raised the bar indeed - they given a new definition of "introducing new bugs" :)

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Re: Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 131.156.220.31] on November 07, 2008 03:02 PM
For some reason they don't load the floppy module any more--simply run 'sudo modprobe floppy' from the command line. If you want this to happen all the time, put floppy into /etc/modules.conf

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 67.221.113.2] on November 05, 2008 07:28 PM
I have installed intrepid in two laptops. I had minor issues with both of them. In one, it was the broadcom wireless card, in the other, the issues were with NVidia and with the new network manager.

Those issues were minor to me, since I have been using Ubuntu for over a year, but for a brand new user, they would have been show stoppers.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 207.58.192.123] on November 06, 2008 06:55 PM
Beware upgrading, all it raises is sound troubles for my PC (HP XE783, 1gz intel celeron P3 type, 512MB and Intel 810 chipset video and audio). I updated from 8.04 to 8.10 and wish I hadn't. No sound for adobe flash 10 addon for firefox 3 in 8.10. Unfortunately there is lots of flash media on the internet. The sound worked well for 8.04. Pulseaudio makes no sound when you click test button. Autodetect makes no sound when you click test button. OSS makes a sound when you click test button. I have tried several internet searched solutions, to no avail. I'm considering cleaning the disk an loading 8.04 back onto my PC. Thankfully I didn't upgrade my 8.04 on my newest PC.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 207.58.192.123] on November 06, 2008 07:24 PM
Sound functionality doesn't seem to have been well tested.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 83.146.33.39] on November 06, 2008 10:07 PM
"yet I experienced some minor issues that keep it from absolute perfection." it must only raise the bar for *buntu distrobutions then. Why is this fanboy claim made with every release of *buntu? Read the comments to see the problems... raised the bar indeed, yeah right.. and i'm brad pitt

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 64.213.218.195] on November 07, 2008 12:02 AM
I'm blaming my hardware more than Ubuntu for my recent tests on Ubuntu 8.10. Performance is way down (it uses about 70-100 MB extra RAM while idle) and there are random bugs and issues everywhere. 8.04.1 was pretty good for me, but I've slowly tired of the little issues I run into every time. Obviously this isn't the only standard and other people have had no issues with 8.10, but I had to move on.

Now living happily in Debian Stable. I look forward to 9.04 nonetheless.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 88.28.98.170] on November 07, 2008 11:36 AM
Many people here installed Ubuntu without reading the release notes. These release notes list the issues with the new version. My point is, don't install the upgrade unless you know your hardware is going to work fine on 2.6.27 kernels. If you upgrade your kernel without considering hardware support you are just asking fo it. Please don't complain. Ubuntu 8.10 works like a champ.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex lowers the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 207.58.192.123] on November 07, 2008 03:01 PM
The ubuntu 8.10 release notes doesn't mention sound problems. Yet, when you google sound problems for 8.10 they show that some people are having them and had them back in July 2008.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex lowers the sound bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 72.51.210.183] on November 08, 2008 02:00 AM
Search Ubuntu's website for "ubuntu 8.10 sound problems" and you get 255 results, yet there is no mention of sound problems in the release notes for 8.10.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex lowered the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 72.51.210.183] on November 09, 2008 01:04 AM
Wasn't worth upgrading for me. The only thing i noticed about Gnome 2.24 was that it made logging out, switching users, shutting down, restarting and locking the screen more complicated adding extra clicks. What was wrong with shutdown button at the top of the screen, seemed more streamlined/logical to me. Well at least Xfce Xubuntu kept it's shutdown streamlined. Didn't have the openoffice 3.0. We've had openoffice 3.0 on my family's windoze pc for awhile. I guess the wireless stuff is good for Dell to put on laptops. Xubuntu seemed ok and Kubuntu KDE 4.1.2 looked interesting. 8.10 Broke sound for me. Sound worked better in 8.04 for me. I reloaded 8.04. I'm listening to AOL radio on it right now. Didn't see any must have application upgrades. 1st ubuntu upgrade that I went back to the previous version. I hope the next is more inspiring than this one. I think 6 months is not enough time to get a version polished enough.

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 78.22.103.169] on November 10, 2008 12:40 PM
ubuntu rocks, true. but i've had alot of problems which would be very hard to solve for a noob.
i'm now testing openSuSE 11 and i'm happily surprised by the easy, very natural interface.
good gui config (has also bootloader gui). it seems easier than ubuntu....

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Not for kubuntu

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 77.99.150.12] on November 11, 2008 01:59 PM
kde users are forced to use kde4 with no kde3 otpion. While kde4 is better than kde3 in many ways, it is still lacking some key kicker features and not offering kde3 packages forced me to look for an alternative distro with a more kde friendly set of developers.

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I found a repository with kde 3.5.10 for Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 201.229.196.212] on November 12, 2008 04:41 AM
Kde 4 still look like beta version for that reason i found a repository of kde 3.5.10 for Intrepid Ibex here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 66.176.55.35] on November 14, 2008 01:32 AM
For all of the good and none of the bad of 8.10,
use Linix Mint .............

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 164.116.71.39] on November 17, 2008 08:02 PM
Hey Guys,

I dont know if any of you had the same thing happen, but I was running Gutsy 8.04 and simply UPGRADED and it seems to be working fine. I have a nVidia card, and everything seem sto be working normally. I will run some tests and have a review out with possible tips for use by the end of the week..

TTFN,
Adam
SidTheKid.org

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 70.79.104.11] on November 17, 2008 08:04 PM
I have the "restricted drivers" running for my ATI card - but none of the fancy stuff works. I am now back to working without any visual effects. Not a big deal really, and certainly not worth going to trhough all the steps in unofficial ATI wiki.

But I cannot get the USB start up thing to create a "live disk" on a pen drive. It says it is "installing" but nothing happens

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Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex raises the bar

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 88.240.229.233] on November 27, 2008 09:30 AM
The updated Human theme is not bad, yet a break from the Human style all together would have been appreciated. Thankfully, the Ubuntu community came together and created several alternate themes for the new release (Dust, Kin, and New Wave), yet none of those are installed by default.Barbie oyunları çocuk oyunları mario oyunları Oyunları oyna http://www.oyunlari-oyna savaş oyunları.com KDE 4.1 has many minor issues - e.g., cannot increase # of desktops, many shortcut keys aren't available, some windows cannot be resized. Although it does have a very nice look and feel, it's still feels like a beta level release, still buggy - but kodos to the hard working kde developers for the attempted leap - I am sure all those glitches would be fixed shortly.
Other than that, it seems to be working very good.

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