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New PCLinuxOS 2007 looks great, works well

By Susan Linton on May 23, 2007 (8:00:00 AM)

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PCLinuxOS is a live CD distribution that enables users to test Linux without actually having to install it. The highly anticipated new version, PCLinuxOS 2007, was released on Monday. Its intuitive selection of software, high level of stability and functionality, and the quality of the graphics make this the distribution's best release ever.

PCLOS began almost four years ago as a fork of MandrakeLinux 9.2. Subsequent releases were built and updated upon the previous version. PCLOS 2007 still utilizes some source code from MandrivaLinux, as seen in the startup wizard, hard drive installer, and the PCLinuxOS Control Center.

After the live CD boots the kernel and before a user sees the desktop, a system configuration wizard prompts you for the keyboard, timezone, and network connection you want to use. On my laptop I have a WLAN chip that is dependent upon Windows drivers used under Ndiswrapper. This isn't an obstacle with PCLOS. The wizard allowed me to browse my Windows NTFS hard drive and loaded the chosen driver file. After I filled in the WPA security information, it connected to my wireless router within a few seconds without problems.

If you like the way PCLOS performs on your hardware, you can use the supplied graphical hard drive installer to make it permanent. The quick and easy installer asks a few preliminary questions, copies files to the hard drive, then asks a few configuration questions. All told, it took about 20 minutes to install on my test machines.

PCLOS looks polished and professional. The boot and login processes are dressed up with a new Diamond Plate metal theme, while the KDE desktop features an abstract blue wallpaper with a semi-transparent panel containing a few quick launchers and applets. A beautification team has worked for several months to bring this level of beauty to reality. If you prefer the GNOME desktop, you can select task-gnome in the Synaptic package manager and it will install the complete desktop system.

PCLinuxOS

As for bundled applications, this release includes the full OpenOffice.org suite in the latest stable version. Firefox is the new default browser, although Konqueror is still available. You can see and hear multimedia content through Amarok, MPlayer, Kaffeine, Frostwire, DeVeDe, TVTime, Flash, and Java JRE. To view and manipulate graphics and photos, the distribution provides the GIMP, GQView, digiKam, and Kalbum. Internet applications include XChat, Kopete, Thunderbird, and TightVNC. System tools include K3b, Krusader, GKrellM, and SearchMonkey. Configuration utilities include the KDE Control Panel and the PCLinuxOS Control Panel, an application used to configure a wide variety of system and hardware settings. It lets you set up a firewall, groupware mail services, network devices and connections, system start services, and much more. Under the hood we find Linux-2.6.18.8, Xorg 7.1.1, and GCC 4.1.1.

Firefox and Thunderbird are well-integrated; clicking a Web link in Thunderbird opens the Firefox browser, and clicking an email link in Firefox opens a Thunderbird message window. You can also set images viewed within Firefox as the desktop wallpaper simply by right-clicking on an image and choosing "Set as Background."

Proprietary drivers are no longer included on the live CD, but you can install them (and other software) easily. The Synaptic package manager ably installs customized RPM packages from PCLOS repositories, which contain approximately 5,000 additional packages specially made for PCLOS. It's not advisable to install packages compiled for other RPM-based distributions, such as Mandriva or Fedora, due to possible conflicts and missing or mislocated libraries.

I wished to install the Nvidia proprietary graphic drivers in order to try out PCLOS' 3-D desktops. Searching with Synaptic, I found four sets of Nvidia drivers:  97xx for newer cards, 96xx for the GeForce 2/3 line, 71xx for the TNT series, and the experimental 100.14.xx driver. Installing through Synaptic is as easy as right-clicking the package listing, clicking "Mark for Install," and clicking the Apply button in the tool bar. Synaptic downloaded and installed the packages without issue, and I was instructed to restart X in order to use them. The extra NVIDIA dkms packages, that are pulled in as dependencies, update the the system files saving users the chore of having to edit their /etc/X11/xorg.conf files themselves. In addition, anytime users update their kernel, dkms runs at boot and rebuilds the Nvidia drivers for the new kernel automatically.

Upon restarting the X server, I visited the PCLinuxOS Control Center to enable Beryl. To enable the 3-D desktop, enter the PCC, click the Hardware subheading, and then Configure 3D Desktop Effects. The choices are AIGLX or Xgl and Compiz or Beryl. For my Nvidia chip I chose Xgl and Beryl, and was then prompted to start X again, after which all the experimental effects were enabled. PCLOS lead developer Texstar says that this software is still in development and might be unstable, but for me, all the effects performed as designed with no stability issues whatsoever.

Another feature of PCLOS is its support for multimedia files, whether on the desktop or over the Internet. Although the win32codecs are not included, the video players were able to play any movie file I had on hand. In addition, I had no trouble watching streaming video, Google or YouTube videos, or Apple.com QuickTime movie trailers.

Support options
The project offers a friendly and helpful user forum as well as an IRC channel for those who need support.
PCLOS includes the ability to remaster the distribution as you like. This enables you to craft a live CD containing your choice of applications, customizations, and personal information and settings. To remaster your own PCLOS-based live CD, simply type remasterme into a terminal or console. This is a relatively easy task to perform, although some experience with Bash commands and functions would be helpful.

Hardware support in PCLOS is outstanding. All my hardware worked upon boot, except my wireless chipset, which required a bit of user interaction first. My graphics were correctly identified and the optimal resolution was set, startup sounds greeted my login, and my touchpad worked accurately and smoothly. Setting up a remote printer was as easy as filling in a few blanks in the PCLinuxOS Control Center. Removable media is autodetected; when you connect, a dialog window opens asking if the device should be mounted.

Advanced power-saving features worked wonderfully. In order to take advantage of CPUfreq scaling to slow down the CPU when not in use, I needed to enable it in the PCC under System -> Enable or disable the system services. After enabling ACPI in KLaptop, I was able to take advantage the hibernate function, although suspend didn't seem to work as well for me. As an alternative, I installed KPowersave through Synaptic. When using KPowersave both hibernate and suspend worked well.

In conclusion, I was quite pleased with final release of PCLinuxOS 2007. Its hardware detection and configuration is well above average. All the software I tested was stable and performed well. As delivered PCLOS is missing Kontact, my choice in a mail and news application, and KDE games, but they are available through Synaptic. So, between the included applications and those available in the repositories, PCLOS is a complete system ready for work or play.

With its great looks and out-of-the-box capabilities, PCLOS is a wonderful choice for anyone who wants an elegant yet capable Linux desktop system.

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PCLinux2007

Posted by: gcararie on May 25, 2007 03:53 AM
Thank you for the article. I just loaded PCLinux2007 on my Engieering computer and find that it is as good as any of the other 99 that I have tried. I will keep it as my main distro for now. I am currently using UBuntu. I am able to use all of my hardware except my Canon printer. In fact, my scanner works with Linux, but not Windows XP.

Unfortunately, I don't have the internet and can not easily add programs. I would rather have everything on one DVD.

I am still waiting for a distro that will connect to my Canon printer, give me a good (remember that word) AUTOCAD clone, and other typical engineering design software.

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Good AutoCAD clone

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 26, 2007 10:47 AM
<a href="http://www.bricscad.com/download/downloadForm.jsp;jsessionid=DEDFFAHACBMO?product=BCAD" title="bricscad.com">http://www.bricscad.com/download/downloadForm.jsp<nobr>;<wbr></nobr> jsessionid=DEDFFAHACBMO?product=BCAD</a bricscad.com>
Part of it relies on WINE, so it's not perfect, but it works.
It's not FOSS, but it's cheap and it's based on ICAD, which is from a consortium <a href="http://www.opendesign.org/" title="opendesign.org">http://www.opendesign.org/</a opendesign.org>
that has reverse engineered AutoCAD's<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.dwg formats and made an open standard for them.

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ooops

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 26, 2007 10:53 AM
<a href="http://www.opendesign.com/" title="opendesign.com">http://www.opendesign.com/</a opendesign.com>

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The conclusion is invalid

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 05:38 PM

Hardware support in PCLOS is outstanding.

And you conclude that based on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... ?


All my hardware worked upon boot


So you tested maybe 5 devices, out of maybe 50,000 which are "out there", and you draw a general conclusion about hardware support? Nonsense!


Your machine happened to have hardware that is compatible with the distro. What percentage of hardware devices are compatible? You don't know. Would other distros have dealt with your hardware equally well? You don't know. (Distros are selecting device drivers from the same pool, so a lot of them tend to have similar hardware capabilities).

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Re:The conclusion is invalid

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 10:09 PM
Didn't know if you knew this...but the reviewer is srlinuxx from tuxmachines.org

I'd say she's plenty qualified to determine if a distro has excellent support...afterall, I don't know too many people that have 40+ partitions spread across over a terabyte of disk space<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

Hardware support has been EXCELLENT in PCLOS since version<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.71 in 2004...the claim is valid.

Why don't you go back to drumming up support for Ubuntu?

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Re:The conclusion is invalid

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 10:36 PM
Susan is a PCLOS Tester. Unsurprisingly her machine worked on release.

Moral of the story become a Tester for your favorite distribution and participate in their test cycles with as many machines as you can muster.

One thing that PCLOS2007 (And Texstar started) is the live CD especially one that mounts NTFS and allows you to browse for a NDIS wrapped device and install a driver into the live CD session in the NDISWRAPPER. The whole team is to be congratulated for this "advance" which should be emulated by all distributions so we can get those 50,000 devices we all want tested.

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Re:The conclusion is invalid

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 01:26 AM

I'm not an official tester. I'm not even a contributing tester. I load up the releases and sometimes I post my results on my site (as articles or blogs), but I certainly don't post in their forums about hardware which doesn't work so they can fix support for it. But I will say that I've tested just about every version of PCLOS that has ever been released and it does, in fact, just work here with whatever hardware I'm using at the time.



I wouldn't say that PCLOS is my favorite distro either. Everyone that knows me or visits my site regularly knows that Gentoo has been my everyday desktop for over 4 years. OpenSUSE is the default distro on my laptop as well.



Thanks,

-susan linton (srlinuxx)

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Re:The conclusion is invalid

Posted by: Administrator on May 23, 2007 09:45 PM
Goodness, I'll bet you hate waking up in the morning don't you?

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Re: The conclusion is invalid

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 70.145.15.52] on December 08, 2007 06:49 AM
Everything except my Lexmark X1150 All-In-One printer/scanner was configured perfectly upon boot with PCLinuxOS 2007. So the conclusion is not invalid. I have a computer that was assembled piece-by-piece as I was able to afford the components. Since they are ordinary store-bought components (of the type that many Americans who are plunging into GNU/Linux buy), it's likely that most people will also meet with success if they give PCLinuxOS 2007 a try.

Keep your negativity stowed!
[Modified by: Anonymous on December 08, 2007 06:55 AM]

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PCLinuxOS

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 07:17 PM
One huge point in PCLinuxOS is that it's an English-only distribution! In a connected world, with so many people form everywhere, this is not a simple oversight, it's a huge error.

I'd like to know exactly how much different PCLinuxOS is from Mandriva, as all PCLinuxOS screenshots I've seen look exactly like Mandriva.

Then, as they are almost the same, I'd like to know why Mandriva reviews are either non existent or are generaly harsh.

Peace

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Re:PCLinuxOS

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 08:42 PM
there are also localized iso's out there. watch the project page

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Re:PCLinuxOS

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 10:06 PM
It's an error for a distro to NOT Have volunteers to translate for them?

Wow! How bout that.

PCLOS does not equal Mandriva...how bout you get off your lazy kick and check it out instead of assuming things...remember what happens when you assume!

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Re:PCLinuxOS

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 03:04 AM
You can configure pclos for additional language support. Internationalization is on the roadmap and a dvd with extra language support is scheduled for release in the next two months.

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Re:PCLinuxOS

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 07:37 AM
Um, I have a feeling that anyone reading this article would be able to use an English distribution...

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Then jump in and help out with translations

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 26, 2007 06:26 AM
You can help fix that. Contact the PCLinuxOS team and offer to help. That's the beauty of Free Software; you actually have the opportunity to help fix whatever you think is a deficiency. Before you get too upset, please remember that the PCLinuxOS team doesn't "owe" you, me, or anyone else anything. It's Free Software; get busy!

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Re:PCLinuxOS

Posted by: Administrator on May 24, 2007 06:51 AM
As for the Lingual part: the international PCLOS community is currently working on a multilingual DVD. For now there are local teams in: Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Norwegian, Poland, Portugal, Spain and Sweden. If your native language is not covered yet, you can always start a local team<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)

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What is good and what is bad

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 09:27 PM
Praising or cursing distros 'in general' ain't good, believe me! Good for whom? Bad for whom?
Now to business. I belong to those folks who have to run Microsoft machines, but become aware that this is a blind alley. Microsoft made a revolution, but now it has nowhere to go (too old maybe). Therefore I've been looking for alternative distro that can fit for general ex-Microsoft folks: out-of-the-box installation, 'pro-Microsoft' simplicity for everyday tasks, simple administration tools, etc. In other words, I was looking for distro I could recommend to other Microsoft folks.
Mind that every distro I installed was tested by my family (wife and daughters), and my family strongly prefers Windoze XP!
Now it boils down to this: PCLinuxOS. Other distros (Mandriva, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, OpenSUSE) didn't survive due to several reasons: inconvenient interface, always had to add something (codecs, Macromedia, inability to switch users, etc.)
Another strong point of PCLinuxOS appeared its ability to execute passwordless login in XP-like mode, just pressing user icon!
Once again, Linux folks would argue that PCLOS 'cannot do this', 'cannot do that' - I quite agree, but... you are Linux already! What I am talking about is average Windoze user who had enough of it due to the abovementioned reasons.
Good luck!

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A good of review of a very good distro

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 10:05 PM
Thank you for the review. I especially liked the fact that you mentioned the remasterme feature. It works very well. I have used Linux for almost a decade now. I have tried all the top Linux distros. A few months ago I discovered PCLinuxOS and knew I had found my new home. Why? Well, the looks are good, but that is not it. Using Synaptic as a package manager is great, but that is not it either. The Control Center is amazing, and i wouldn't want to live without it. But, the real reason I am making PCLOS my favorite distro at the moment is all of the above along with the general feeling of quality and attention to detail. I am used to having little things not working well in all the distros I have used. In PCLOS I am continually amazed at how well everything works. The attention to detail is just amazing!

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PCLinuxOS 2007

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 10:39 PM
Your review is excellent,fair and to the point.
In my opinion, PCLinuxOS is the best linux distro

  available today. I have evaluated all the other
major distros (over 15)and PCLinuxOS best delivers
what i need. I suppose others agree, given its
meteoric rise on the Distrowatch hit list.

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Re:PCLinuxOS 2007

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 06:44 AM
Yes, I agree with you completely. Over the last few years, PCLinuxOS has slowly taken over as my default desktop, not only at home but at work as well -- No my company does not use linux desktops but I do have the freedom to do so.

My wife, a "Jane User", is quite comfortable using this linux distro. Ubuntu confused her no end.

PCLinuxOS supported all of my hardware<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... that's two separate HP laptop models, one AMD-based 32-bit desktop and the other AMD-based 64-bit server.

Lastly, I am a self-confessed distro junkie so you can bet I've tried *all* the distros out there who claim to be desktop-friendly and average-user-friendly!

Go download PCLinuxOS and try it out (LiveCD) for yourselves. You will be pleasantly surprised.

Cheers.

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PCLinuxOS &amp; Mandriva

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 11:52 PM
I use both. PCLinux on 32bit systems and Mandriva to make sure an x64 system is firing on all cylinders.

There is quite a lot in common between the two and I find that I can install quite a number of Mandriva 2007 rpms on PCLinuxOS 2007 when they aren't in the PCLinuxOS repository.

I would say the major plus points of PCLinuxOS are,

1) Less tweaking to get KDE to look good. It's mostly right by default.

2) Synaptic/Apt-get/rpm system is my favourite since it is fast to reload repositories, will update without asking questions half way through and hardly ever gets itself in a twist. I find other rpm systems such as yum and urpmi way to slow and Synaptic/Apt-get/deb won't do much without asking endless questions about packages I never knew I had or what they do that I need to think deeply about answering, or just guess the answer to.

3) Textar often answers questions directly, I've found the atmosphere on the forums very supportive and friendly. Not sure how long he can keep up this level of service as the distro gains popularity but appreciate it so far.

Having said that, I've found Mandriva 2007.1 (Spring) to be much more together than 2007 out of the box. KDE actually has legible fonts by default in the "free" version this time.

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pclinuxos

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 23, 2007 11:56 PM
Hallo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...Using NEC S940
I am Using tr 1 and i think i dont have a plan to install the final release...lol

All seems workin well, except modem and Infra Red

But Overall is good...
I am using this Distro more often and start to abandon the pre-OS<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...XP.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:))

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Re: pclinuxos

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 118.137.0.30] on November 03, 2007 10:01 AM
u can download the modem driver from www.linuxant.com
...mine now workin ...
email me if u found driver for iR : melinuxid@yahoo.com

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Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 02:08 AM
These pclinuxos reviews seem to be very superficial and a bit biased.(This guy has a point:http://www.kostaslinux.blogspot.com/)Sure pclos looks good and most of the stuff works out of the box but what modern distro doesnt do that ?Can anyone substantiate the claim that it has better hardware support than ubuntu ? all the distros i ve ever tried always achieved the same results for me.Is it really that polished ? what about the fact that it has 2 levels of submenus and some of them have only one entry ? is it really necessary ? the control center is very centralised but so what ? What does it really do that others dont ? Why pclos instead of sabyon for instance ?I dont get it people ! i d appreciate some real arguments instead of "it feels good"

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 02:31 AM
Seems to be Ubuntu fanboys popping up doing superfissual write ups against other Linux OS's
is this a growing trend learned from M$

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 06:48 AM
Agreed. And I also believe its a latent KDE v/s GNOME gripe that sends Ubuntu fanboys scurrying to deride every other distro that uses KDE as default.

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 02:39 AM
Why not write one yourself if you feel these aren't 'cutting it'?

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 02:46 AM
I dont think on the surface it is much different than other distros but it is the little things when added up make for a good user experience. The less configuration a newbiew has to do the easier it is going to be for them to get started. Firefox/Tbird integrated into kde and each other. When installing nvidia or ati drivers a script runs and attempts to set up their xorg.conf file for them as well as making a backup of the existing xorg in case something goes wrong. Preconfigured Synaptic Software Manager where the users doesn't have to cut and paste urls into it. Most things can be achieved through point and click without having to go to the command line etc...

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 03:21 AM
i ve already tried it , i wouldnt ever comment about a distro i ve never tried !

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 05:59 PM
Tried or used? It is in everyday use that PCLinuxOS outshines most other distributions.

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Just give it a try

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 03:11 AM
It is not hard to try it yourself and find out. It is a live distro, which means you can run it from the CD without even installing it. Why not just give it a try and find out what the hoopla is all about?

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 03:20 AM
1)That has to be the most self defeating argument ever.Whos the fanboy here is more than obvious.Its quite clear that some pclos fanboys see themselves as rebels who are trying to take on the evil giant that is ubuntu.Ubuntu is pclos's windows to them.Its pathetic of course but the interesting question is why they think the way they do.Since ubuntu is a pretty good distro , the only reason i see is that its a bit overehyped and that canonical is run by a millionaire (seems to make a huge difference for some reason)I too am a bit dissapointed since all the good features seem to be pushed back every release and they end up adding crap but overall its pretty good.

2)I like the idea but i bet wouldnt make any difference

3)I still dont get it , i ve ne never HAD to use the command line under ubuntu(i did but i didnt HAVE to) the all the drivers were installed automatically and configured properly.I do like the fact that some proprietary stuff is already in there including the google apps (i always install earth and picasa on a new installation) but this could have been done very easily in ubuntu too but there are probably legal reasons about which i know little so no comment on that.pclos IS polished and requires little configuration but i dont see how it would be easier than ubuntu.I ve never read a single review that criticizes pclos and thats absolutely ridiculous , no distro is perfect including ubuntu AND pclinuxos.If you really love this distro you should be doing some constructing criticism instead of what you are doing here

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 04:02 AM
Look, of course PCLinuxOS is not perfect. Just go over to the bug submission section of the forums, and you will find that there are several issues being worked on right now. However, overall, it gets things right to an extent that it excels over other distros at this point in time. I have nothing against Ubuntu. It is FOSS, and that is enough for me to like it. However, as a user, I didn't like it, mostly because I agree with Linus' opinion about Gnome's restrictiveness, ahem, excuse me, user friendliness.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) But, I understand that some people really like that. Fortunately, there is Gnome for them. For those of use that prefer KDE PCLinuxOS is hard to beat, at this point in time.

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 04:23 AM
The wireless support in all the *buntus just doesn't work for me when it does it many other Linux distros. With Ubuntu specifically, the number of included applications are very limited and the default desktop just isn't very pretty to me.

Sabayon wouldn't even install on my desktop for the longest time. After v3.x, it began installing, but it was unstable, crashy, and slow performing. It looked great, but it just didn't work very well. Finally with 3.3, things began to work much better, but I still had certain hardware issues - such as my Epson R220 printer or suspend to disk.

I'll be keeping an eye on all these distros and as things improve and change, I'll probably speak of it somewhere. But today's topic was PCLOS and the real argument keeps coming back to it is one of the most easy and carefree systems I've tested. It doesn't give me any trouble. Everything just works like it should. It's like you guys want me apologize for it working so well.

Thanks,
susan

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 05:02 AM
oh come on! i tried it too and i got the same results on my laptop (except that the media buttons dont work anymore<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P)I had heard so much stuff about this distro that i was planning to switch , cold turkey !but after playing with the live cd i decided it wasnt worth it.Every time i changed settings it asked me to log out.horrible windows flashback!also when i changed the settings on beryl manager and i logged in again nothing had changed!The repos are a bit outdated too.Maybe its very good for new users (hard to say how they d react to it) but i am not a new user and i would have to give up alot of stuff just to get a fancy kde theme !I am really happy it works well for you but ubuntu works better for me.Am i to conclude ubuntu is more carefree than PCLinuxOS ? no , of course not , thats called jumping into conclusions.Lets not forget that except newly converted users there are people who have been using linux for some time and we should be taking their needs into account too.

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 05:26 AM

oh come on! i tried it too and i got the same results on my laptop (except that the media buttons dont work anymore<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P)


Sour grapes any one? Ha ha.


I had heard so much stuff about this distro that i was planning to switch , cold turkey !but after playing with the live cd i decided it wasnt worth it.Every time i changed settings it asked me to log out.horrible windows flashback!also when i changed the settings on beryl manager and i logged in again nothing had changed!


You were trying to run Beryl from the live CD. Are you saying that in Ubuntu you don't have to restart X to enable Beryl? Suuuure. I have never tried to run Beryl of the live CD, but I I do know that ending a session does not necessarily restart X. Sometimes you have to do Alt+Backsapace at the login screen to do that.


The repos are a bit outdated too.


from what i have seen, PCLOS repos are much more up to date than K/Ubuntu's. You have got to be kidding.


Maybe its very good for new users (hard to say how they d react to it) but i am not a new user and i would have to give up alot of stuff just to get a fancy kde theme !


Excuse me, but what exactly would you have to give up? People at the monthly screen shot forum seem to be elated with their KDE themes.


I am really happy it works well for you but ubuntu works better for me.


That is all you needed to say.


Am i to conclude ubuntu is more carefree than PCLinuxOS ? no , of course not , thats called jumping into conclusions.


Sorry, but I cannot decipher this one.


Lets not forget that except newly converted users there are people who have been using linux for some time and we should be taking their needs into account too.


Well, I have been using Linux since about 1998 and PCLinuxOS has met my needs better than any distro so far. Maybe if you care to explain what your needs are we can show you how those are cared for in PCLOS. Otherwise you just sound like a Ubuntu fanboy that feels threatened by this up and coming distro.

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 02:54 PM
You were trying to run Beryl from the live CD. Are you saying that in Ubuntu you don't have to restart X to enable Beryl?

The (Compiz-based) desktop effects in Ubuntu can be switched on and off on-the-fly without the need to restart X or logging out.

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 08:24 PM
Once you have a 3D capable video driver enabled you can in PCLinuxOS as well. Ubuntu doesn't ship with one out of the box, does it? And to enable it you have to restart X.

There are two ways to get Beryl going in PCLinuxOS. Both are easy, and both work well:

<a href="http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=99999999&topic=15167.0" title="pclinuxos.com">http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf<nobr>&<wbr></nobr> Itemid=99999999&topic=15167.0</a pclinuxos.com>

<a href="http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=99999999&topic=16159.0" title="pclinuxos.com">http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf<nobr>&<wbr></nobr> Itemid=99999999&topic=16159.0</a pclinuxos.com>

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Re(1):Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 67.183.146.34] on November 08, 2007 06:20 AM
Switched on and off on the fly without the need to restart X or logging out, and also "Out of the box" is that before or after you Install your 3d drivers since it doesn't autoload for you? Is that before or after you have to fiddle with it to get it work? :)

Always wondered about that, everytime I booted a *buntu Iso I had to fiddle with it to get it to load the proprietary drivers. 3d effects out of the box.. what a crock :D

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 06:56 AM
One thing I know for sure that K/ubuntu does not do very well is the firewall bit. I mean letting you do things! It can definitely prevent you from doing everything like VPN etc by default.

In PCLinuxOS, its a simple matter enabling internet sharing with your home network, say. And everything seems to work -- that is *supposed* to work. I don't have to go tinkering with n-number of firewall softwares to do this. I didn't even know what firewalling software PClinuxOS used until I wanted to do the same with my Kubuntu installation. Then I discovered it uses shorewall. However, for simple tasks like internet connection sharing with the your home network, you would never have to edit a single config file.

Try it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... don't keep getting heart-burns because others arre using it and liking it.

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 05:12 AM
Don't worry about it, Susan, Linux.com is where the commenters who are too grumpy for Slashdot hang out. It's dominated by hypercritical, negative dunces. I imagine most of your readers are more thoughtful and better-informed, but don't feel like tangling with the trolls. Please continue to contribute your good articles.

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 05:19 AM
Is it just me or people here dont take criticism very well ? calling troll someone who doesnt like your distro as much as you do is a bit too much

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 10:41 AM
What criticism? It's ignorant babbling. Not one useful, valid critique in any of these comments.

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 25, 2007 02:21 AM
Yeah kostas is a prolific blogger and reviewer. He crits one page reviews in his one and only blog this year. seems like a buntu fanboy with a gripe.

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Re:Is it really that good ?

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 31, 2007 04:26 AM
Yep. It's really that good!

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Is it the best..

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 24, 2007 05:50 PM
I have tried many distros also, and PCLinux OS is the one I use full time now. I have it loaded on 2x32bit machines, 1x64bit and an Acer portable, they have between them a mix of Nvidia, ATI and some minor brand video cards, a mix of sound cards, a mix of printer, scannners and cams, as well as chipsets and processors.. and they all work fine.
Anyone who says it doesn`t work on everything is probaly right, but every other OS doesn`t work on everything else either, including M$. I have Ubuntu, XP and win 2000 to, and they are and can be cows to setup.
If you compare the video effects of PCLinux 2007, running Beryl, then vista looks like the pits, but I won`t even go there. This distro is the easiest to use, the most integrated, and is really polished.
Try it.

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Re:Is it the best..

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 25, 2007 01:59 AM
Well this is the distro where you can get everything if you want. I'm giving truth to Anonym before. But few things first. This community is relatively small, but growing. Second - this is a young distro witch trying to give alternative out of the box with everybody to everybody....

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Mandriva or PCLinux OS

Posted by: Anonymous Coward on May 25, 2007 11:39 PM
Way back when Mandriva was Mandrake Texstar supplied working MDK's to the world.
Texstar's RPM's or MDK's as Mandrake calls them were and still are superior to Mandriva's .

Mandriva (Mandrake + Connectiva) chased all of the community of developers away when Mandriva was started.

PCLinuxOS is a very well DEBUGGED OS.

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Good Review

Posted by: Administrator on May 23, 2007 10:55 PM
There's a reason PCLinuxOS has made strides in the Distrowatch hit parade, occasionally surpassing Ubuntu in hits on a weekly basis--it simply gives users a better experience.

It's amazing that a tiny group folks can make a distro this great, and it doesn't require the financial largess of a millionaire to make it so.

Thanks, Susan, and a well written and concise review.

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DELL Goofed!

Posted by: Administrator on May 27, 2007 07:53 AM
Too bad DELL didn't choose PCLinuxOS as their distro for their new Linux based offerings. I've tried Ubuntu 7.04 and it's nowhere near as nice and complete a desktop distro as PCLinuxOS. Oh well, if the hardware's all compatible, it's a simple matter of wiping the drive and reinstalling. But I can't wait to hear what all those Windows users think of Ubuntu, Gnome, and DELL after they get these boxes home and are staring at an empty brown desktop. PCLinuxOS with KDE would make the transition so much easier and intuitive for them. It's a great distro.

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It's great but will still be better with KDE 4

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 125.20.39.39] on September 06, 2007 06:17 AM
Liked the review as well as the distro. But I think it will still be better with KDE 4. For popularity point PCLinuxOS need to bring out its Gnome flavor to beat the ubunut line and ride high. Newbies plz try manmath sahu's blog http://pclinuxos2007.blogspot.com to power your system.

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New PCLinuxOS 2007 looks great, works well

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 203.87.189.34] on October 18, 2007 06:37 AM
Will PCLinuxOS 2007 work on my Acer Aspire 5052 laptop? It's an AMD Turion 64 machine. I tried Ubuntu live CD on it, but it just stopped dead on a prompt. I just wanted to know before I download PCLOS2007. Thanks, people!

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New PCLinuxOS 2007 looks great, works well

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 118.137.0.30] on November 03, 2007 09:54 AM
i am using tr 3 into my nec s940 ,
most hardware are detected,
except modem its not automatically detected,
i ve to installed from external resources : www.linuxant.com, and using generic package (.tar.gz)
(at the first install, i think the driver conflicted with the soundcard, but after using a harddrake and running config from there
i've managed my soundcard functioned again...suddenly after initiating init 2...it's worked again..lol)....

but beside of the 'little bug' ... overall perfomance is outstanding

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New PCLinuxOS 2007 looks great, works well

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 75.164.183.59] on November 23, 2007 11:06 PM
PClos is a distro for newbs wowed by transparent panels and obsolete 3d effects (Beryl is DEAD noobies).

Getting anything serious done in PClos is a joke. Configuring simple things like phpmyadmin and mysql is close to impossible.

And when is PClos2008 coming out. Your release schedule competes with debian for speed. And don't give me the rolling updates BS. With rolling updates 2007 becomes progressively buggier.

As for distrowatch...PClos has been caught red handed urging your fanbois to vote on IRC. In fact PClos's German user group actually had a link to distrowatch on their front page. Your distro is a disgrace.

For the record, I use Fedora 7.

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How to create a VPN connection in PClinuxOS?

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 77.126.155.220] on February 26, 2008 02:37 AM
hi everyone,
i am pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to make a VPN connection using PCLinux using my cable modem
do i have to download scripts or is it possible to create it manually?
or is there an easy way to automatically install VPN software and create a simple dialer to connect to my ISP using cable infrastructure ?

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