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So someone can kill YAST and make a whole lot of people happier. Unless they just redo it as YAST3. With a purty " theme ".

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www.opensuse.org could not be found. Please check the name and try again.

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There was an article on eweek that pointed to this site. It did make the point that the site is not up yet, but that the domain was setup. See this domain registration:

Domain Name:OPENSUSE.ORG

Registrant ID:mKn-14210565

Registrant Name:Bruce Wayne

Registrant Organization:Novell, Inc.

Registrant Street1:1800 South Novell Place

Registrant City:Provo

Registrant State/Province:UT

Registrant Postal Code:84606

Registrant Email:bwayne@novell.com

Admin Name:Bruce Wayne

Admin Organization:Novell, Inc.

Admin Street1:1800 South Novell Place

Admin Email:bwayne@novell.com

Tech Email:bwayne@novell.com

Name Server:NS.NOVELL.COM

Name Server:NS2.NOVELL.COM

Name Server:NS.NOVELL.CO.UK

Never fear, it's coming

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And it will be wearing a cape and chasing spotlights when it does... apparently.

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Vanquishing evil too... pretty funny

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What's wrong with YAST? I've not had any problems with it over the years.

I think that YAST was even open sourced back before SuSE was purchased.

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Nope, Novell open sourced it after aquiring SUSE.

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I like gnome-system-tools a lot more. In Fedora they are enhanced. YAST is huge, gst is split into many small apps for customizing - and installing is done with yum (works very much like apt).

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That has to be the most clueless comment today, since YAST simply is the best and most comprehensive configuration tool available for any Linux distribution today. The only thing remotely close are the Mandriva tools, all other distributions are far behind.No sane Suse user would wan't it gone so I'd guess your from the ubuntu fanboi school, and actually have no clue of configuration and installation utilities. Because they, the fanbois, are the only ones having problems. When you tell them other distributions, unlike ubuntu, actually have decent configuration tools. Making them better choices in most situations.

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It is my opinion that Red Hat, Mandriva, and SUSE, among the commercial vendors that are known, have the major system management tools. Most of the other vendors borrow heavily from one of these three approaches, but a few relatively obscure companies do have very good management tools.

My favorite distribution upon which I base my own customized Debian-based distribution, comes from the well regarded (but small) North Vancouver, British Columbia company Libra Systems Limited, creators of Libranet. The Libranet distribution, of course, benefits greatly from the already outstanding set of Debian configuration tools. However, as most people know, Debian is plagued by an installation procedure that is anything but easy for anyone but an experienced user, even after major "improvements" over the previous release. Debian has some excellent management tools, but they are also almost all command driven, very flexible, but hardly easy to use by modern standards. In comes Libranet. Their software is nearly as easy to install as most recent distributions, but it has an absolutely terrific set of management tools that front end those excellent Debian tools and make them easy to use.

My personal opinion is that the Libranet tools rival the Drak* tools from the original Mandrake collection, plus they benefit from the hardware detection and installation tools, Anaconda and Kudzu provided by the Red Hat project.

YAST is a very powerful toolset. Over the past year or so the code has been made freely available, so people are free to add to it, tear it apart, fix the bad stuff and use the good stuff. I would say that the toolset is in need of a face lift. That doesn't mean it should be tossed. SUSE has a lot of solid stuff in it. The tool does need to be streamlined, made more efficient, and cleaned up.

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There is a better way...
I finally got Audacity running (they deleted by torching of SuSE) by going to this site and doing this. Installing APT, saved my day.

APT4SuSE HOW-TO
<a href="http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/" title="linux01.gwdg.de">http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/</a linux01.gwdg.de>

more on apt4SuSE...
<a href="http://www.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Install-apt4suse" title="susewiki.org">http://www.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Install-a<nobr>p<wbr></nobr> t4suse</a susewiki.org>

You can even replace the YAST updater 100% with this and why SuSE is not doing this, ya gotta wonder?

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SUSE is running pretty smoothly<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

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I concur. Many people are bad-mouthing SUSE for this move, but let me remind everyone that it's for our own (the Open Source community's) best interest if SUSE lets the community get more involved.

Only good things will come out of this, just wait and see.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)

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wonderful news, the SuSE crowd (my wife is a SuSE fan) ought to see interesting development in the coming years

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Plenty of folks knocked Red Hat for doing something similar. However, I believe that such strategies have helped us quite a bit. I run Fedora Core 3 (the K12LTSP variant), and I am very, very happy with it. Red Hat tries stuff out in FC and might move it to RHEL, where the CentOS users can benefit as well.

Opening up SuSE Linux Pro is an excellent thing and, in my opinion, should've been done long ago. I was a little hesitant to recommend SuSE Linux to some of the non-profits out here for fear of inclusions of proprietary software (I gave them K12LTSP), but it seems that concern will soon be gone. Kudos to Novell; I suspect that they will get more help from the community this way, just as Red Hat has.

Good move.

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So far, it is not. I had to create a novell account to even get to www.opensuse.org, and it refused to let me in. Access controls prevented showing.


    Due to that, the information appears to be incorrect, and Suse is not yet open.


    They would have to brand YAST as open, has that been done yet? Previously their installer was not open source, it was a propietary product.

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YAST was GPL'ed in March 2004.

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