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Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

By Tina Gasperson on September 28, 2007 (5:00:00 PM)

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The idea is floating around again: Let's make a special Linux distribution for women! We're smarter than that, aren't we? I say, let's spare ourselves and the world yet another pointless and less-than-useful version of Linux.

Also see: GNU/Linux distro for women? Why not?

We women make up more than half the population, so by no means are we a minority. Yet we claim a minority status of sorts in the IT world, where depending on who you talk to, women make up somewhere from 20% to 30% of the workforce. This topic is the focus of many heated discussions on Internet mailing lists frequented by women in IT. Many believe the low number of females in computer science occupations is a problem that needs to be fixed. Girls, they say, are being actively discouraged by parents, peers, and teachers from entering fields considered by society to be too "geeky" for women.

If you listen to these pundits, you may begin to believe that girls are champing at the bit to become technologists, but are being forced to instead enter fields like sociology, health care, or services. Some are even being handcuffed to the kitchen sink and forced to become stay-at-home mothers, the worst possible punishment of all, because everyone knows that no one in her right mind would ever want to do anything as subservient and unrewarding as raising a brood of unruly children to be the next generation of leaders. All these poor girls want is to be just like men: aggressive, logical, and task-oriented, and we're forcing them to go against their nature and be nurturing, emotional, and relationship-oriented. It's a crime. But I digress.

Assuming that the relative paucity of women in the IT industry is a problem that needs fixing, is creating a new "Girls' Linux Distribution" going to help? I say no. If we want to become part of the industry, why would we want to separate ourselves and draw attention to our differences? If we're trying to say that women have all the same aptitudes and tendencies that men in IT have, it makes no sense to then say that we need or want our own flavor of Linux.

What would we include in this distro? Pink butterfly themes? Shopping calculators? Does that sound insulting? It should. So I ask again, what exactly would we include in a female version of Linux? The longer you think about this, the more ridiculous it sounds. In fact, if you believe that there are men out there who really do want to keep women out, it sounds like an idea that misogynists would push just to keep us separate. "Aw, look at those cute little girls playing at technology -- they even made their own Starbucks icons!" I can hear it now.

Some say that the reason for a women's distribution would be to give women the opportunity to work on creating a custom version of Linux. This insinuates, again, that women are being excluded from participating in development of other distributions -- that there are hundreds of women out there who would be madly coding away if only they were allowed to, if only someone would hold the gate open for them, if only someone would invite them to participate in the creation of a girly GUI. That otherwise, they're just too scared and shy, and incapable of jumping in there with the boys.

The fact is that most women I know outside of the IT industry are more tech-savvy than the men in their lives. They are the ones who have embraced the Internet and the gadgets that accompany it. They are the ones who communicate mostly by email, and their husbands and boyfriends and fathers and brothers are still stuck on the phone and can't boot the computer without someone holding their hand. According to Nielsen, women make up the majority of Internet users, and they spend a lot more money on technology than men do. Just because most of them do not choose to make a living at it doesn't mean that women are somehow lacking in the ability to understand and absorb the concept of technology.

Creating a special Linux distribution as though it were a delightful surprise that we can use Linux at all is not going to help our image. Special Linuxes are for people with USB keys and religious sensibilities. We women are doing just fine, thanks.

Tina Gasperson writes about business and technology from an open source perspective.

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No OS is gender centric!

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 207.154.91.254] on September 28, 2007 05:52 PM
The media and other information venues make them gender centric.

I am a proud parent of 2 girls, and me being in the IT field, will definitely encourage them to ride the technology wave.

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Re: No OS is gender centric!

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 69.113.27.13] on September 29, 2007 11:24 PM
Where can I buy this No OS?
Also will you be marrying off your girls once they are able to have children as you should? (menarche).

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Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: unknown] on September 28, 2007 06:15 PM
BTW as a pretty devout Christian. I personally don't see any value in Ubuntu Christan. If I want any of those packages "which I don't" I would just download them. Other than that I agree with you. If my wife hadn't married a programmer the odds are very high that she would be the technical one in the family. She has her own id on Slashdot and manages several servers where she works.
The idea that you could make a distro that meets the needs of "women" is as insulting as the idea of a distro that meets the needs of Christians or African-Americans. These are both vast communities of individuals. A woman can be a geologist, artist, mother, teacher, or all of them. My wife still gets ticked when people as her "did you learn about computers from David?". The answer of where she learned about computers is from her mother. He mother is in her 60s and is works with Excel, Crystal Reports, and SAP for a living.
The definition of bigotry is when you stop treating people as individuals.

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Re: Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.207.107.158] on October 01, 2007 07:24 AM
I use it myself, and there is a practical use for it.
Yes, you can just get ubuntu, and install all the christian software yourself, and configure it etc...
But coming in a package, its almost like downloading a playlist.
I used it at the camp I worked at, and installed it on their computers. It was glorious - (Until a windows zealot bastard ruined it all - I warned them about how xp would fail them - and it did)

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Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 142.205.212.203] on September 28, 2007 06:55 PM
they have them already... it's called ubuntu :-)

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Re: Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 192.28.2.17] on October 02, 2007 05:15 PM
mod parent up! oops wrong site.

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Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 75.167.69.63] on September 28, 2007 07:01 PM
If women want it... women will make it.

If they don't... there's no need for it.

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Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.232.16.9] on September 28, 2007 07:01 PM
Is there anything that is not insulting to woman?



I'm being ironic, and i'm really asking

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Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 68.6.127.43] on September 28, 2007 07:20 PM
people are going to make "useless" distros as long as they can.....if you don't like it, don't use it. it's free software isn't it?

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Re: Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

Posted by: Jeremy Akers on September 29, 2007 12:23 AM
The author is simply pointing out the stupidity if such a move. No-one is claiming that people don't create useless distro's, or that anyone would be forced to use it.

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You're absolutely right - and in any case,...

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 82.192.250.149] on September 28, 2007 08:59 PM
... if somebody wants pink butterfly wallpaper, she can install it in Debian or Red Hat. No need for a new distro.

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I just found out what a distro is!

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 67.162.93.131] on September 28, 2007 09:18 PM
HEY GUYS I JUST FOUND OUT WHAT A DISTRO IS AND NOW I WANT TO HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE WITH SPECIAL DIFFERENT COLORS AND GUI'S AND LOGOS FOR EVERYDAY OF THE WEEK! OK NOW HERE ARE MY IDEAS! YAYAYAYAY:

JEWNIX - I'm studying Hitler in school right now - so I'd like to think of how he would approach the successful creation of a Linux distribution. First of all, concerning boot sequence: bsd-style is fine, but on startup echo /dev/random so jewden can never figure out how it works. 2ndly, I would hire sony to create some linux compatable backdoors - but here is the hard part: When you put sony's CD into the drive, it will have to determine if the computer is the property of a non-Aryan being, and only then install the trojans and whatnot.

I have ideas for 1000s more distros so stay tuned!

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Troll God.

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 61.68.168.53] on September 29, 2007 03:11 AM
We Are Anonymous and We Are Strong.

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Yeah

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 72.74.123.168] on September 28, 2007 09:41 PM
What a dumb idea. A man probably thought of it.

 


-- a man

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WTF?!!

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 129.130.53.174] on September 28, 2007 09:41 PM
Not quite understanding your point at all. Because you, a current geek woman, wouldn't like one specific form of Linux (that you intentionally chose to be offensive to others like yourself) that means the idea is insulting? You're an idiot.

Say this to yourself, "Women and men are different." Believe it or not, that is true. Yes, we're all humans, but different strokes for different folks. Your arguments are pretty lame, even for a woman. (Yes, I'm intentionally trying to be offensive, because you are doing your best to offend.)

You don't have to use a distro for women (and for their sake, I would hope you don't - I hope you go to Windows, actually).

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Re: WTF?!!

Posted by: Jeremy Akers on September 29, 2007 12:19 AM
""Women and men are different." Believe it or not, that is true."



Please show me where the author states that this is not true?



"Yes, we're all humans, but different strokes for different folks."



I believe the author posed the question: 'What would be different in this distro.' You claim 'different strokes for different folks', but you fail to identify a SINGLE difference. It sounds like you're trolling to me.



"Your arguments are pretty lame."



Let's review... You fail to point out, specifically, which arguments are lame, or how/why they are lame. You offer no references or provide any logic to back up your argument. Therefore, it is YOUR arguments which are lame, and YOU are the idiot.



-Jeremy

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Re(1): WTF?!!

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 220.239.144.218] on September 29, 2007 02:18 AM
Ditto.

I can understand the motivation for women's communities, or sub-communities within a larger project, but I'm yet to see a single reasonable argument for how a "Linux for women" distro would help anything.

I'm certainly not saying that someone so inclined to start one doesn't have the -right- to do so... but I hope they wouldn't be surprised when people either don't care, or are outright offended by the idea.

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Re: WTF?!!

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 63.251.108.100] on September 29, 2007 01:45 AM
One thing is sure: you're a guy, and you somehow think you're going to get into some woman's pants by attacking the author. Good luck with that, because everything she said is spot-on, and women are going to agree with her, not you.

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Re(1): WTF?!!

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 70.179.187.236] on September 29, 2007 05:35 AM
Your comments are as intelligent as hers. She's ruling out a Linux distro for women a priori, as something that could NEVER possibly have appeal to ANY woman. She throws up a strawman argument that would obviously be offensive to some women (or should I say feminazis) who argue that women should use nothing friendlier than Slackware. She is ruling out the possibility that a distro for women could ever have appeal, at all, and that is outright childish. It's a screwy idea for which _she_ offered no evidence. She is saying that it could only happen as a way to suppress the voting rights of women, or some crap like that, and your faked offense at my statements are just as idiotic. She wants to make a statement, but this is obviously not the right place to make that statement that she's "just as good as a man".

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Re(2): WTF?!!

Posted by: Jeremy Akers on September 29, 2007 05:31 PM
"She's ruling out a Linux distro for women a priori, as something that could NEVER possibly have appeal to ANY woman."



Does she? Please show me where. A quote from the text would be nice.



"She throws up a strawman argument"



Again, please show me where this is. I see no such strawman.



"She is ruling out the possibility that a distro for women could ever have appeal, at all"



Again, where? I believe the author even asks the question, and I quote the article: "What would we include in this distro?" Why don't you try answering this question, please?



"It's a screwy idea for which _she_ offered no evidence."



Really? No evidence? Lets review the points that she made:





  • Are the low number of females in computer science occupations a problem that needs to be fixed?
  • Are girls being actively discouraged by parents, peers, and teachers from entering fields considered by society to be too "geeky" for women?
  • Are girls champing at the bit to become technologists, but are being forced to instead enter fields like sociology, health care, or services?
  • Are women being handcuffed to the kitchen sink and forced to become stay-at-home mothers?
  • Is creating a new "Girls' Linux Distribution" going to help?



    Then the author says, No, she does not think, so, and offers reasons why:




  • If we want to become part of the industry, why would we want to separate ourselves and draw attention to our differences?
  • If we're trying to say that women have all the same aptitudes and tendencies that men in IT have, it makes no sense to then say that we need or want our own flavor of Linux.




    Perhaps you should learn to RTFA.



    "She is saying that it could only happen as a way to suppress the voting rights of women"



    Funny, I did a word search for 'vote', 'voting', hell, I even did 'vot'. I found no occurance of the word. Can you just not read, or what?



    Now let's review the evidence you offered...



    Oh wait, YOU are the one who offered no evidence. ;)



    -Jeremy

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  • Re(3): WTF?!!

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 70.179.187.236] on October 01, 2007 04:01 AM
    "Does she? Please show me where. A quote from the text would be nice."



    Umm...maybe if you actually read the article you could see that? How about the first paragraph:



    "We're smarter than that, aren't we? I say, let's spare ourselves and the world yet another pointless and less-than-useful version of Linux."



    "I see no such strawman."



    Umm...again, it helps if you actually READ the article:



    "Pink butterfly themes? Shopping calculators? Does that sound insulting? It should."



    "Oh wait, YOU are the one who offered no evidence. ;)"



    Well, let's see here, I was commenting on her statement that it could not possibly make sense to have a distro for women. She provided no evidence for that opinion. I don't need to offer evidence, she does. I can think of distros that would have appeal to some women (and primarily women) but that is beside the point. Her argument is a militant version of feminism that is applied in a completely inappropriate fashion in this article. She's arguing against a strawman, not a serious proposal.



    As for the rest of your comment, it is rubbish, and I don't have time to waste responding to it.

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    Re(4): WTF?!!

    Posted by: Jeremy Akers on October 01, 2007 04:54 AM
    Let's see, you said:



    "She's ruling out a Linux distro for women a priori, as something that could NEVER possibly have appeal to ANY woman."



    And your 'evidence' of this is, as quoted from the article:



    "We're smarter than that, aren't we? I say, let's spare ourselves and the world yet another pointless and less-than-useful version of Linux."



    Now, maybe I'm blind, but no-where in that quote do I see a reference to such a distro having, or not having, appeal to women. She said we should spare the world another useless distro. You are essentially putting words in the author's mouth here.



    And your evidence of a strawman argument:



    "Pink butterfly themes? Shopping calculators? Does that sound insulting? It should."



    You've got to be kidding, right? Asking what this distro might include, and offering sarcastic suggestions is not sufficient evidence of a strawman argument. In order for it to be strawman, she has to misrepresent the opponents position. In order to prove that, you would need to compare what the author of this article argued against, to the original proposed reasons for creating such a distro. It's possible it is a strawman argument, but there's no way to know that without seeing the original proposal. Your argument that her argument is strawman is no less of a strawman itself.



    "Well, let's see here, I was commenting on her statement that it could not possibly make sense to have a distro for women."



    She never once stated that it could not possibly make sense. She offers arguments against the idea.



    "She provided no evidence for that opinion."



    An opinion she never stated? I wonder why she offered no evidence?



    "I don't need to offer evidence, she does."



    She did, I even quoted it for your convenience in my last post. Did you fail to read that too?



    "As for the rest of your comment, it is rubbish, and I don't have time to waste responding to it."



    HAHA, the only thing you didn't respond to was me pointing out that she never even mentioned voting rights in her article. That's rubbish huh, and you had time to respond to every thing else? Yet you don't have time to show me where she mentions women's voting rights?

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    Re(1): WTF?!!

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 70.179.187.236] on October 01, 2007 04:09 AM
    "you somehow think you're going to get into some woman's pants by attacking the author"


    LOL that is the dumbest comment I've seen in at least ten years. Posting anonymously on a Linux website is going to get you into a woman's pants? And because of an attack on the author?

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.248.89.66] on September 28, 2007 10:22 PM
    What are you talking about?? Many women leave their rewarding jobs to become stay at home mothers because they find that even more rewarding. The women who decide to do that, want to, heck a lot who want to are not able because of economic reality.

    We as a society do a poor job all around with smart, nerdy and geeky people, girls just get it a lot worse. I don't think a girls version of Linux will help as much as helping to network women.

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    Re: Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.232.16.9] on September 28, 2007 11:19 PM
    i think she is being ironic

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    Re: Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Jeremy Akers on September 29, 2007 12:21 AM
    "What are you talking about?? Many women leave their rewarding jobs to become stay at home mothers"



    Before you get all excited, calm down, and read the article. the author was being sarcastic. if you read the entire article instead of focusing on one sentence, this becomes quite obvious.



    -Jeremy

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 63.165.126.30] on September 28, 2007 10:50 PM
    I thought Linux was made up of OPEN SOURCE? Does this mean for men only? I think not. I have been in the technology business for 40 years and back in the 60's and 70's there were more men than women, by a significant number. I don't think the ratio is that much in favor of men today. Our development staff is about 50/50 and IT mid management staff is about the same. Yes a man recently replaced a woman as CIO but we did have a women CIO.

    I think the article is right on.

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 76.114.147.255] on September 29, 2007 02:35 AM
    Hmmmmm what could we possibly call this distro???

    I know!!!! BitchX

    Funny that captcha, for my submission was 'licky'

    D.

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 75.21.181.88] on September 29, 2007 03:06 AM
    Stay focused!

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 86.103.198.234] on September 29, 2007 02:37 PM
    i am pro a women based distro. Why is that? Well first of all we have 350 or more distros by now - and we dont really need all of them. So why yet another? Well one thing that is a problem is that women in open source dont get into positions where they can test their skills. This not a female owned problem - male have that too - but i think the numbers you have are wrong. in open source I think only 1 % of all geeks are women (or less). Cant rember where i got this number. i would not suggest a womens distro as a distribution FOR women but a distribution FROM women. So they can do all: packaging, publishing,... and i would also guess that this will drive some media attention. And then its good. i dont think that this distro will be better or worse than another. But it would be a nice project. And i am not suggesting that women should only join THIS distro. But i cant see any downsides. It will help Linux and it will help women. So two plus and no minus. Dont see it too ideological. Women in Open Source is a worrying topic as there is much more equality in the Windows world - which i hate to admit - and I would like to see this turned this arround. --Thilo Pfennig

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 83.168.75.14] on September 29, 2007 04:21 PM
    There could be a linux for men explicitly, like porn linux, that would emphasise their mind orientation.

    Well, I agree with the author.

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    We already have one.

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 74.192.0.199] on September 29, 2007 04:36 PM
    It is even named after a girl named Debra,

    Debian.

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    Alright, boys and girls!

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 70.228.163.254] on September 29, 2007 04:42 PM
    Why would anyone waste mor4e than one second on coming up with a female-oriented version of anything involving computers? Everyone already knows that computers *are* female.

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    Bravo

    Posted by: tomws on September 30, 2007 06:17 AM
    Well-written and beautifully handles the faux crisis of women in computing. Especially poignant on women being "forced" into other fields.

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    Linux distro for BLACKS?

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 70.169.167.212] on September 30, 2007 07:37 PM
    Would the advocates for a "Linux distro for women" also advocate a "Linux distro for blacks?" Last I checked, blacks are pretty doggone scarce in the tech world and especially so in the Linux/FOSS world....

    Really, would you advocate this?

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    Re: Linux distro for BLACKS?

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.110.60.136] on October 01, 2007 04:05 AM
    Though your comment is meant to be sarcasm, it is still moronic in its comparison and uninformed conclusion.

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    Re(1): Linux distro for BLACKS?

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 151.188.247.104] on October 01, 2007 10:18 PM
    Actually, I was serious. Would you indeed support a distro "for blacks"?

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    Re(2): Linux distro for BLACKS?

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 208.53.47.223] on October 19, 2007 01:10 PM
    The answer is "sure". Would I use it? Probably not, I'm not black. But if there was a group that felt there was a need, what would be the problem with it?



    Freedom of association, people. You can associate with whom you want, including creating a distro JUST FOR YOU. If I feel like creating a distro just for a people in my family, I have that right. Would I create a distro for a Nazi group? Or a Socialist group? Nope, I'm not either of those, why would I?



    Nobody's asking you to create a distro for blacks, are they? I'd be pretty surprised if anyone did. I think if a group has a need/want for it, they'll create it. So define what you mean by "support". Would I stand in the way of its creation? Nope, that's stupid. Would I fund it? Probably not, why would I? I have no interest in it. Would I use it? [see above].



    Your question suggests racism or sexism. It's not that type of question. But it's not a question I need to worry about.

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    Re: Linux distro for BLACKS?

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 70.179.187.236] on October 01, 2007 04:06 AM
    Let's ask the following question: do blacks have different computing needs from anyone else? I don't know that they do, but if so, they SHOULD have their own distro.



    Some groups of women do in fact have different computing needs from others, so the question does not really apply here.

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    Re(1): Linux distro for BLACKS?

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 129.129.129.132] on October 01, 2007 02:42 PM
    people doing different kinds of work *may* have the need for different distros, people for what they are need only different applications which *should* run in any distro.

    So women would need a period planner and men would need a sofa-comparison tool (so they know which one can hold the specific kind of beer can they like most) and both these applications should run in your ^.*(Linux|Bsd|Windows|Whatever).*$ distribution.

    A distro for women is pathetic and senseless just like Tina said.

    Cheers,

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    Re(2): Linux distro for BLACKS?

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 208.53.47.223] on October 19, 2007 01:12 PM
    Now THAT is an offensive comment. Cheers on producing it. If there's a group that wants it, what's your problem with it? Whine a little more.

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 24.207.107.158] on October 01, 2007 07:21 AM
    what about the women who want a shopping calculator, and girly themes?
    Choice is what Linux is about. Perhaps it can be a project maintained by only women software developers, to prevent discrimination.
    I dunno, this whole article seems like it was written by a feminist fangirl - The need for a women distro isn't for the sake of them being a minority, but for the sake of them being different.
    I afterall, know allot of people who would loooove a shopping calculator.

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: sintu on October 01, 2007 10:29 AM
    i agree with you TINA, Linux distro for women what for ?,what this does is it further infiriorates the female gander and justifies man`s position that women are a weaker sex, am against that,its just like someone would call one for blacks thats idiotic .

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    Re: Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 208.53.47.223] on October 19, 2007 01:21 PM
    No it doesn't. None of these comments are accurate. Let me be specific.


    1. You have no right to claim that "the female gender(spelling corrected)" would be "further infuriate[d](spelling corrected)". Even if you're a woman, who elected you the head of all women to speak for them collectively?


    2. You have no right to claim that "man" in general holds inherently the position that "women are a weaker sex". Again, who elected you the head of all mankind to specify the position of said group? I didn't vote for you.


    3. Nobody that I know has suggested a distro for blacks. And if they did, what's your problem with it? Feeling discriminated against? Why? You can get a distro for whatever you want. I'll bet you could even get the Black or Female distro, and use it. Naturally the police might show up at your door and take you into custody for using a version of Linux for which you do not meet the user requirements, right? The suggestion that someone can't associate or create a distro for whom they wish is offensive and hypocritically prejudicial.


    You might want to rethink your arguments.

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 72.237.174.94] on October 01, 2007 08:39 PM
    What, *precisely*, is particularly male about current distros? Maybe it's because I'm a man, but I have never seen anything about any distro I've used that seemed excessively "male".

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    Re: Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 151.188.247.104] on October 01, 2007 10:16 PM
    Now, now, there you go making sense. That's not allowed, you evil *MAN*, you!



    I agree with Tina. This entire notion is ridiculous.

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    Re(1): Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 208.53.47.223] on October 19, 2007 01:25 PM
    Actually, it doesn't make sense. The first comment asked a very poignant question.... what is particularly male about it? I don't know, I'm male.... but perhaps females see it differently. So why is the notion of a female's distro ridiculous? If they want it, and are going to create it, why do you get your panties in a bunch about it? It's all about demand, if one exists, someone will create it, and I don't have an issue with it. Frankly I'm surprised anyone would.

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 202.12.144.21] on October 02, 2007 12:22 AM
    Is it really about the technology and the distribution?

    The point is that it would provide a social network and environment the precludes drop-kick males...

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 66.243.55.175] on October 02, 2007 04:39 PM
    I think a lot of people here missed the point a little bit. However Where as we don't really need a different distro for the female geek or IT person, it might be interesting to see what favorite utilities or programs she might favor that can be added to there distro of choice.

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 192.223.243.6] on October 02, 2007 08:37 PM
    Tina, I think you are reacting in a knee jerk fashion here. Nobody is forcing, suggesting, or insisting, that anyone do anything, use anything, compartmentatize people grorups, or anything else.

    The observation was made somewhere that there do not seem to be a lot of women at the present time doing Linux software development. There do not appear to be very many names of women listed, either as distro makers, maintainers, or contributers.

    Those that suggested the idea of a distro targeted at women, created by women, were not intending to single out, they were actually highly valuing the intelligence and skill of women and wishing there were a useful way of attracting more of these skilled people and interesting them in the technology - not by force or by constraint, but thriough intelligent exchange.

    You are clearly skilled in what you do. We have at least some freelance journalists in the industry. Would probably be nice to have more capable women in this profession as well.

    It is really too bad that these kind of wishes degrade into feelings of inclusion, exclusion, separating, etc. I am equally dismayed to see drawing out of race and color. From what I can tell, Linux is well represented by many ethnic groups around the globe.

    The vast majority of people use the general purpose distros, just as we do with any other general purpose operating system. Linux distros have the unique capability to also create specialized systems that still do every day general purpose work particularly well, but they can be tailored to any interest group, or for that matter, any hobby, application, or form. For example, there are many Firewall and router only administrative distributions (not commonly known to anyone except administrators who are interested in these things). There are a boatload of Live CDs that can be used to test stuff out without having to disturb your existing system, regardless of whether it is Windows, Linux, or something else altogether. There are multimedia oriented specialty distros. Another person reported there is a Christian themed distribution. The possibilities are endless. I will probably make a Brian or "Mas" oriented distro at some point with an audience of one - ME.

    I think the emphasis should be placed on inclusion of as many people as possible, not in singling out any specific group and ESPECIALLY not degrading any group.

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    Linux distro for women? Can you say Wag the dog?

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 96.228.169.147] on October 03, 2007 02:48 AM
    It's funny to see how everyone is getting so worked up over such a nonsensical non-story. All this is really about is Linux.com trying to stir up controversy because it can't bother to do actual news reporting or offer much of anything in the way of value. It's easier to write this kind of crap than it is to write intelligent things that, you know, MATTER.

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    Linux distro for women? Thanks, but no thanks

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 208.53.47.223] on October 18, 2007 03:16 AM
    Well, I've got to chime in. Here's the problem I've got with this article. Men and women are different. Period (no pun intended). Men have penises. Girls have vaginas. Men do not think the same as women. Things that are intuitive to women are not necessarily intuitive to men, and vice versa. I don't have a problem with a "women's version" of linux, as I am not a woman. I don't know if what men (largely) have made makes sense to women, or if they have had to just deal with it. In any case, if a man tried to create something for a woman, it's likely to be tinged with his own perceptions... I say, "why not"? A woman's distro might just work better for women. I like mine, and I don't have a problem with anyone rolling their own.

    If the author is happy with her version, so what? But why the need to chime in and abuse women who don't agree with her?

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    have you forgotten linux is freedom???by william r robinson

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 216.81.125.124] on October 19, 2007 09:48 AM
    Freedom means the right to search for what makes you happy even if that something dose not make someone else happy, and they have the right to search for what makes them happy.
    "liife liberty and the pursuit of happiness"
    you know all the stuff that makes america great
    and if it makes me happy then I can make a distribution for dogs or cats or one exclusively for the rainforest treetop tode.
    If it makes you happy then you can still compline about it.

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    Re: have you forgotten linux is freedom???by william r robinson

    Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 208.53.47.223] on October 19, 2007 01:27 PM
    Well said. Couldn't agree more.

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