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Ten sticking points for new Ubuntu users

Posted by: Anonymous [ip: 69.54.28.182] on July 09, 2008 03:19 AM
1 screen setup is partially bs and also has a good point. drivers by the manufacturer that are subpar either due to "lack of demand" or redmond payoff's != to ubuntu's fault. defaulting to 640x res and having buttons beyond the screen = supid mistake. drivers have always been a big problem for linux and are only slowly getting better. redmond played a huge part in that prevously and the reminants of their entrenchment are still being felt. they lost antitrust lawsuits for a reason and are probably only the tip of that iceberg. Linux's stance on drivers has caused some of the problem as well but with the quality of drivers now being writen its hard to blame the community for lack of trust in the manufacturer's developers. even windows drivers are seeing weard quarks that just should not be. some comments about my wide screen lcd didnt work i find interesting. my 19" wide screen was detected right off and just worked with my nvidia card. it took a fiew min with synaptic to get the restricted drivers going but that is another story.

2 GRUB that i find silly. a gui config is very nice indeed. the lack of a formal repair tool is NOT good. question though how many ppl installed redhat and when asked to stick a floppy in to make a recovery disk did so? how many while installing windows xp did so? better yet how many people that we are talking about ever installed windows at all?(not recovery cd either) Will the average user back up their data (not untill it costs them a job or 2) that is a bit absurd for blaming linux on. this is again windows not following the rules and people not wanting to change. The instructions are fairly simple and would be easy enough for a new user to follow.

3 disk tools are lacking, a gui disk assistant that understands removable media is needed. a better error when you are not root also a must. I had gotten some weard errors becaus i was not root and it was not playing nice with 1 partition from a usb > ide converter.

4 installer the mentioned problem i find very odd. a friend of mine did not have this problem even though he had a bad port on his router. he would get an ip but not be able to surf the net etc. (he was thinking it could not detect the nic) this issue we figured was due to the port after he brought it over and it worked just fine. took it home again and it didnt work till he moved the network cable.

Installer issues not being very friendly to a reinstall and or disk partitioning.

5 this can be a great pain and is often related to drivers lacking due to linux not being popular enough for venders to care. some advanced features i cant comment on.

6 ipv6 just confuses the doodle out of me. out of the box trying to use v6 instead of 4. I did not see this and wish it would work for me out of the box.

7 hibernation comments crack me up. it is a big no go for somany even in the windows world. hibernation is jsut BROKEN. the person who brought it forth in windows incarnation should be pubicly flogged. the whole suspend/hibernation idea for pc's should be rebuilt from the ground up <.> they are wonderful ideas that were never thought through in the first place. windows users get their hand slapped for hibernation offline files and a couple other things. Power management sucks I agree and some of that could be helped along by the manufacturers.

8 is a hoot. I cant tell you how many times I have had windows users come crying due to their outlook pst broke the unmentioned 2gb barrer and they lost all kinds of emails. there are plenty of programs/scripts that will allow you to transfer your email over if you 1 look and are ready to fight redmond's insanity. yes the user has to see the dredded console! that you just have to get over. the pst limits that are never mentioned to users are a far worse problem then trying to migrate the outlook data. most users have no idea what and where their data is stored in the first place let alone how to move it over. they will probably get my documents and the desktop. tobad one note and exchange dont live there what a shame.

9 is the true winner! clear and consise documentation of simple and common tasks is what is needed. I have been using linux since 96 I still come across so many readme's that are about as clear as the japanese manual for most vcr's. I know what im doing and many you just cant follow unless you understand the writer well. making sure that the sensible documentation is included with the install/cd is a must #1.

10 is just goofy from the claim of 10 sticking points. thats no better then saying a new user should be able to create a ms sql database from day 1. doing somthing like that you need to be on irc getting proper help. a bigger issue related is the "dev" packages per "1) Somebody in the Ubuntu developing team had the "brilliant" idea of changing the name of libglib1.2 to libglib1.2ldbl. As a result, it is impossible to install a number of programs and drivers that depended on it." i would bet this user needs to install libglib1.3ldbl-dev in order to get the other programs/drivers to work. so many times I have had source or even a fiew packaged installs need a dev package and not tell you "please get the dev package." being an old timer after the first failure or 2 i figure it to missing header files etc that are only provided by dev packages.

11 network manager. this should take a spot some where because ubuntu's system is not friendly. I havent seen the default wireless manager but would not be suprised if it is behind windows in usability. the fcc mandate that parts be closed source and fiew manufacturers working onlinux drivers have really crippled that area. dlink's 530 card is a good example has the same atheros chip as the 520 but with messed up country coding. it took the madwifi & atheros developers a while to get that mess sorted out. manufacturers are not making it easy to catch up. the default package is probably not the best for getting it to work either.

vpn support broken?! erm depends on whos client you were using and posably the settings on the other side. cisco vpn can be set to make routes do stupid things like disable all local traffic so you now cant use your home printer. thankyou corperate settings.

12 totem/codecs. this is a BIG no go for many. I have found totem a real pain and getting websites to work with flash etc right off is important. I must say I am happy that ubuntu 64 is handeling them just fine once i get it all installed. dvd's took a bit of diging to find the right packages to install. there were about 4 different methods to get it to work for all dvd's it just took me a bit to find the one that worked. xine to the rescue.


other) to the person who said office dont work its a no go. well office is made specifically to NOT be compatible with OOo heck its not even properly compatible with other versions of its self so i dont find that overly encouraging. aslong as its not excell OOo has better file compatibility with all versions of office then any ms version to date. compair apples to apples plz. ms office specifically rewrites excell formulas to something propriatary. I rewrote a formula that was in use from office 2k but broke when going to OOo and saved it. worked fine opened it in ms and it still worked great closed it and did NOT save. opened again in OOo and the formula was change and broken again. cant say that its necessarly OOo's fault there for incompatibility, redmond strikes again.

NTFS falls in to a similer situation. ntfs3g does have issues. they need to fix soon to. wine your favorite game and there is a good chance it will have weard things happen. it does not properly support writing to the ntfs partition. 3g said it was a rare occasion that that write was used. tobad thats about the only one used by games.

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